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R&B Guru

2009-04-18 12:53:23

Total Posts: 2101
Honestly, New Edition's work as an R&B group is really overstated. Most of their early work was very boy band/pop-esque. It was only with Heartbreak that they really came into R&B. And if you look, after that they didn't release ANY albums for what, 8 years? They've really only had three R&B albums over a 20 year period. How can you say they're better than Boyz II Men given those specs?

JohnnyAwesome24

2009-04-19 00:26:09

Total Posts: 1411
Church!

R&B Guru

2009-04-19 14:19:55

Total Posts: 2101
...? I don't know if it counts as a 1000 posts Johnny whne one of htem is Church lol

Havok214

2009-04-19 15:26:53

Total Posts: 294
To be honest Guru, I dont really hold the "kiddy" era against them. I mean....they were kids after all. They grew up and got better and then were able to branch off into more success, creating a lasting imprint on RnB. They were one of the most popular groups of the 80's so its hard to bring up that era without bringing up NE. I guess you didnt feel their "adult" albums but I think "Heart Break" at least deserves the credits its usually given.

On to get this topic back on track:

Deborah Cox >>>> Beyonce

R. Kelly and Usher are hella OVERrated

Chante Moore is hella UNDERtated

Joe > R.Kelly & Usher

Keith Washington is a top 5 male soloist of the 90's.

In general, slow jams > uptempos(I got nothing aginst them though)

JohnnyAwesome24

2009-04-19 20:51:39

Total Posts: 1411
I agree with everything you said Havok except for Chante and R Kell. Chante is whatever. Kelly is overrated, but not insanely overrated.

R&B Guru

2009-04-19 22:10:47

Total Posts: 2101
Havok, I didn't say I don't feel them.

It's just, to call them a driving force in R&B seems like a misnomer. Their kiddy stuff was straight pop. I also never said I don't like their adult albums, Heartbreak is tight. I was just saying they don't have A LOT of adult albums. Given the praise they get, you would think they would have had more albums under that style.

junebug18

2009-04-20 00:08:25

Total Posts: 525
I gotta c/s Hav on the NE comment. Also slow jams >>>>>> uptempos, and usher being overrated I co-sign 100%.


-The first 3 Mary J. Blige albums are all classics.

-Silk's 2nd album is super-underrated. (Too many gems on that album)

-"Johnny Gill" >> "Don't Be Cruel" >> "Poison" >> "Ralph Tresvant"

-Comforter > If I Ever Fall In Love >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Baby I'm Yours

-Michael Jackson's "Invincible" album wasn't no "Thriller", or "Dangerous" etc. but it was still a very damn good album.

-On that note, "Dangerous" >>>> "Bad", (even if Dirty Diana >>>>>>>>>>> any track on "Dangerous")

JohnnyAwesome24

2009-04-20 17:43:32

Total Posts: 1411
Comforter was sooooo bad lol.

Johnny G is the man though, he can tell all of the other NE guys to suck it.

All of Silk's albums are underrated. They are such a great group.

junebug18

2009-04-20 23:14:57

Total Posts: 525
LOL. What's so bad about Comforter?

Havok214

2009-04-21 17:32:21

Total Posts: 294
Comforter aint bad at all. I love the way the verses switch off between group and solo singing.

Since we're on the subject of Shai, I gotta say that the verses on "sexual" have some of the best lyrics I've heard on a sex song. Especially verse 2.

Also, them guys fell off without Goove. I hate the fact that he left the group. I never accepted the new guy.

Moofu

2009-04-21 18:25:26

Total Posts: 404
Have you guys heard their "Destiny" album? They sure suffered without Carl.

JohnnyAwesome24

2009-04-23 07:59:01

Total Posts: 1411
They just suck...

R&B Guru

2009-04-23 08:11:16

Total Posts: 2101
Yea... Shai fell off like WHOA. I don't care if you guys don't like Blackface, it's still >> their later work

ilikeit

2009-04-23 08:14:05

Total Posts: 951
Great post on New Edition Havok! I feel you all the way on that one.

junebug18

2009-04-23 19:45:13

Total Posts: 525
Yea, Silk is definitely underrated.

Silk >>> Shai, Blackstreet, After 7. But After 7's "Ready or Not" >>>>> any song by these groups.

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