R&B Music Forum

Where does he stand?......
bunky1787

2010-09-08 19:34:43

Total Posts: 440
Ok, his name is Usher Raymond. He has 3 classic albums in My Way, 8701, and Confessions. Two other solid, but less sucessful albums in Here I stand and Raymond vs. Raymond. He has 11 #1 hits, 19 top ten hits, and over 30 million records sold. If usher retired today, where would he stand in Pop and R&B history. Does he deserve to be up there with performers like Michael Jackson, Prince, and James Brown? Does he deserve be be mantioned in the same breath as crooners like Marvin Gaye, Luther Vandross, and Teddy Pendergrass? What do you think?

JohnnyAwesome24

2010-09-10 09:42:52

Total Posts: 1940
This involves a lot of thought and debate to me. However I will just mention what I concluded, no.

Havok214

2010-09-10 15:55:37

Total Posts: 413
No....just no. I don't consider any of his albums classics or even close. Not a bad vocalist but not great either. I'll be a bit more detailed later but the short answer is no.

JohnnyAwesome24

2010-09-10 18:51:24

Total Posts: 1940
Have to agree with Havok.

JohnnyAwesome24

2010-09-12 17:18:00

Total Posts: 1940
From a numbers standpoint, obviously you can mention him. From a musical standpoint, I don't see him as anywhere near the level of the others.

He isn't bad, but he isn't a showstopper vocally either.

mrjun18

2010-09-13 20:12:59

Total Posts: 54
I stopped reading after I saw "He has 3 classic albums".

In all seriousness.... There is a difference between having 300 top 10 singles, selling a billion albums etc....AND making classic timeless music with meaning, and being musically talented whether its writing, playing instruments producing etc. HUGE DIFFERENCE.


Basically to make it short, my answer is "no".

bunky1787

2010-09-14 05:23:57

Total Posts: 440
While usher didnt write or produce any of his own material, neither have other artists like whitney houston, yet she's legendary. my point with this is that he ha classic material from over a decade ago thats still played on radio today. while not a musician, he is the best performer of the past 15 years, hands down and michael jackson and james brown have both said this guy is something special, with brown calling him "the godson of soul". I dont think u guys are givin him enough credit.

ilikeit

2010-09-14 07:58:25

Total Posts: 1156
I will be seeing him live Dec,3.

JohnnyAwesome24

2010-09-14 17:12:56

Total Posts: 1940
He is not an all time great, mrjun says it well.

R&Banalyst

2010-09-29 18:27:31

Total Posts: 111
What's everyone! I'm back!...not that anyone cared lol! But about ya boy Usher...he's VERY good! He'll be mentioned if he keeps going at the nice rate he's been flowing at. YET, Usher hasn't "changed the game" so-to-speak with anything he's done.


MJ, Prince, James Brown, Gaye, and even R. Kelly (King of Hip-Hop Soul as Mary is the Queen). These people stamped the whole R&B music genre and cut their own piece of the pie out of it.

Like Bobby Brown, Usher has simply proven himself to honorably mentioned among memorable R&B artists with some hits

Fullasoul

2010-10-01 15:31:37

Total Posts: 20
'Honorable Mention' at best...

JohnnyAwesome24

2010-10-03 16:52:42

Total Posts: 1940
Well said fullasoul. Usher has just fallen flat to me at times. He has some good stuff, but he does leave a bad taste in my mouth at times.

A truly talented guy, just not all time.

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